Bret and Jemaine Dancing

Amily wrote:

blondesnotbombs wrote:I have no dance experience whatsoever, I'm lucky I can manage to walk and chew gum at the same time, so I don't think I have much to contribute to this thread in comparing their skills.

Same.

I just know that I love Snake Hips Clement very very much.

Same here too.

I'm just happy to see either of them dance. Especially Bret.



[size=133:e4ebzit2]Sin would be better at contributing to this thread. She's a dancer.

Amily wrote:
I love both of their moves equally. Unless of course Jem is shaking his hips in front of my face. Then I'm done for.

I'll echo that sentiment.

That said, I'm pro-Conchords dancing in all forms even though I'm a die-hard Jemainiac. There is no room for hatin' as far as Conchordian dancing is concerned. As far as the videos and gifs go, it's purely for studying and observing, right? Strictly scientific. ;
)

talkkiwitome wrote:... As far as the videos and gifs go, it's purely for studying and observing, right? Strictly scientific. ;
)

All of this data is necessary for the files. Must always mind the ... files.

hellomyfriend wrote:

talkkiwitome wrote:... As far as the videos and gifs go, it's purely for studying and observing, right? Strictly scientific. ;
)

All of this data is necessary for the files. Must always mind the ... files.

*takes notes*... you know,... for the files.

ok, ok. i'll throw in the "
dancer"
opinion...

in situations where they have the same choreography, i don't necessarily think that one is "
better"
than the other. i assume that whoever does the choreography (it might even be bret) just shows it to them, and they each put their own personal spin on it... thereby defining that one really can't be better than the other. at that point, it's just a matter of personal preference as to whose "
personal spin"
you prefer.

in situations like "
the tough brets"
where they each have different choreo, it's also difficult to determine that one is "
better"
than the other. you can really only compare the choreography, which.. if they didn't create it, then you're no longer critiquing them anyway. my personal opinion there is that they each performed their particular pieces very well.

as for the angry dance.. bret collaborated on the choreo for that with someone else. (sorry, i forgot the name.) it was clearly "
flashdance"
inspired. and i think he does a fantastic job.. from a technical standpoint, and from a "
aww, bret-y!"
standpoint.

in regards to the technical training he had in the past.. it's very clear in my eyes that it has carried with him throughout the years. the way he walks, the way he sits in a chair/crosses his legs or feet, many of his mannerisms. it's all there.. training peeking thru at every turn. it's one of the many things i love about him! and i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he still jumps into a dance class every now and then.


/dancer nerdiness

Sin.

sharona65 wrote:ok, ok. i'll throw in the "
dancer"
opinion...

in situations where they have the same choreography, i don't necessarily think that one is "
better"
than the other. i assume that whoever does the choreography (it might even be bret) just shows it to them, and they each put their own personal spin on it... thereby defining that one really can't be better than the other. at that point, it's just a matter of personal preference as to whose "
personal spin"
you prefer.

in situations like "
the tough brets"
where they each have different choreo, it's also difficult to determine that one is "
better"
than the other. you can really only compare the choreography, which.. if they didn't create it, then you're no longer critiquing them anyway. my personal opinion there is that they each performed their particular pieces very well.

as for the angry dance.. bret collaborated on the choreo for that with someone else. (sorry, i forgot the name.) it was clearly "
flashdance"
inspired. and i think he does a fantastic job.. from a technical standpoint, and from a "
aww, bret-y!"
standpoint.

in regards to the technical training he had in the past.. it's very clear in my eyes that it has carried with him throughout the years. the way he walks, the way he sits in a chair/crosses his legs or feet, many of his mannerisms. it's all there.. training peeking thru at every turn. it's one of the many things i love about him! and i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he still jumps into a dance class every now and then.


/dancer nerdiness

I love yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou.

Sin, I LOVE dancer nerdiness. Thanks so much for your post.

Also, do you think that's why Bret sometimes does weird stuff like slinging his leg over the neck of his guitar? For most people, we wouldn't do that, but maybe that's another example of his dancer self coming out in an odd way.

sharona65 wrote:ok, ok. i'll throw in the "
dancer"
opinion...

in situations where they have the same choreography, i don't necessarily think that one is "
better"
than the other. i assume that whoever does the choreography (it might even be bret) just shows it to them, and they each put their own personal spin on it... thereby defining that one really can't be better than the other. at that point, it's just a matter of personal preference as to whose "
personal spin"
you prefer.

in situations like "
the tough brets"
where they each have different choreo, it's also difficult to determine that one is "
better"
than the other. you can really only compare the choreography, which.. if they didn't create it, then you're no longer critiquing them anyway. my personal opinion there is that they each performed their particular pieces very well.

as for the angry dance.. bret collaborated on the choreo for that with someone else. (sorry, i forgot the name.) it was clearly "
flashdance"
inspired. and i think he does a fantastic job.. from a technical standpoint, and from a "
aww, bret-y!"
standpoint.

in regards to the technical training he had in the past.. it's very clear in my eyes that it has carried with him throughout the years. the way he walks, the way he sits in a chair/crosses his legs or feet, many of his mannerisms. it's all there.. training peeking thru at every turn. it's one of the many things i love about him! and i wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he still jumps into a dance class every now and then.


/dancer nerdiness

I am so hot for you right now

aikakone wrote:Sin, I LOVE dancer nerdiness. Thanks so much for your post.

Also, do you think that's why Bret sometimes does weird stuff like slinging his leg over the neck of his guitar? For most people, we wouldn't do that, but maybe that's another example of his dancer self coming out in an odd way.

could be. lots of dancers have trouble sitting still, and often sit or stand in random/awkward positions. i know i often do. " title="" border="0"/> so, the leg over the guitar could be a dancer thing... but i could also see it being an "
experimental musician"
thing... or maybe it's just a "
quirky bret-y"
thing.


sooo, you love dancer nerdiness? have you had training/are you a fellow dancer? just intrigued by the dance industry?

i'm just curious, and wondering what your thot process was in creating the thread.

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sharona65 wrote:
sooo, you love dancer nerdiness? have you had training/are you a fellow dancer? just intrigued by the dance industry?

i'm just curious, and wondering what your thot process was in creating the thread.

Nope. I'm a musician. (Bachelor's degree with performance specialties in percussion and voice, also play oboe and have been playing electric bass for 4 years.) I don't really dance in a trained way, but as I get older I'm learning to be comfortable in my own skin and just let my instincts flow. Much like people who've been afraid of making music all their lives allowing themselves to make sound.

With my music in mind, though, I can count a routine and learn simple dances that way. I love that challenge, actually. And I've always been fascinated and never gotten a satisfactory answer on if dance can be (for lack of a better term) "
notated"
.

nik and sara!


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---the 3 of us, plus bret and jem in a.... greek dancing circle? :-/

Amily wrote:I think that B & J's dancing styles are so different that they can't even be compared.

I love both of their moves equally. Unless of course Jem is shaking his hips in front of my face. Then I'm done for.

Agreed I'm a HUGE fan of Jemaine's snakehips but I also love watching Bret dance- Angry dance, Stay Cool, Boom etc. They both definitely have rhythm and possess different dance styles and it's a pleasure watching them dance

sheila wrote:
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aikakone wrote:And I've always been fascinated and never gotten a satisfactory answer on if dance can be (for lack of a better term) "
notated"
.

well, yes.. in a way. but there isn't really a guideline for it, if that's what you mean. some choreographers keep journals and notebooks of their work.. which could include a variety of things from step-by-step (yeah, that one's for you guys, jess and ames " title="" border="0"/>) movements to generalized ideas/concepts/pictures. as far as historical purposes goes.. well, we kinda got screwed on that one as there is no real way to capture a particular piece of dance work for all of time.

sharona65 wrote:nik and sara!


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---the 3 of us, plus bret and jem in a.... greek dancing circle? :-/

OPA!

This thread calls for:

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and these:

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You know, I honestly thought the best dancing done in the entire series was by Rhys! I was totally stunned by his turn in "
Stay Cool, Bret"
-- he seemed to be both light and solid at the same time, if that makes any sense. There wasn't a hair on his person that wasn't committed to the move.

As far as Bret and Jemaine are concerned, Bret seems more comfortable being choreographed and as someone upthread mentioned, his general movement seems "
dancerly"
. I think Jemaine is a bit more natural and confident in the way he moves, though. He's less a dancer and more like a big happy dog off his leash.

zap wrote:... like a big happy dog off his leash.

hehe, awwww!!

aikakone wrote:Well, I must put my 2 cents in that one of my favorite Jemaine moves is the one from "
Suga Lumps"
that Amily uses as her signature .gif. I think I had a "
HOMAGOD"
moment the first time I saw that.

It shows a real looseness in his hips, I think. I think that's a good thing, shows he's not like some of us who have tightness in our joints and can't move as freely.

When my best friend started watching Conchords, everything she said about Jemaine was along the lines of, "
Wow, I love the way he moves! It's so fluid! How does he do that?"
, etc. (Yet, for some reason, she's Bretero. )

talkkiwitome wrote:

Bret choreographed the kitchen scene. If you watch the credits and the "
making of"
mockumentary they give him his due there, although his name is spelled "
Brett"
in the mockumentary and we only see him there briefly.

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blondesnotbombs wrote:

onlyalways wrote:[align=center:t4rxb6y1][size=133:t4rxb6y1]Uh, all of you are wrong.





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Oh, Greg.